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Old Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:31pm
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Okay, if not about trust, I guess I'm not sure what your point is. I agree that ultimately, it's our butts in the ringer. Out here, assignors expect us to include table crews in our decision making process when the outcome of the game is on the line. We tell them in locker-room pre-games, "you're part of our crew. bring information if it can prevent a mistake". Whether we exhausted all options in an effort to "get it right" when we kick one is often the teaching point. Perhaps a regional, philosophical difference?
Again I am happy for you that your assignor asks you to do these things, but I have never worked for anyone that put this on us to go to a table crew to know if a ball hit the rim anymore than we would go to the table crew to know if we had a travel. This is what drives me crazy about the "get it right" mantra that many have. It is not about getting it right if you are not the ones that get it right. This is the crew's responsibility or we do not need to be on the game. Why not ask a fan what they think too? The table's responsiblity does not extent do judgment calls on the court IMO and I would not put them in that position if for no other reason than to take them out of being accused of anything.

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Conspiracy theories, media or fan accusations, etc. are not factors I consider when ruling on plays. Didn't see the play you mentioned. Besides, I'm a NFC fan...and am still in mourning for my Niners collapse!
Well there was an accusation that the scoreboard operator deliberately put up the wrong down and distance near the end of the game to fool with the Ravens and as a result had the Ravens doing things based on what the scoreboard said rather than what the table said. Now how does this apply to basketball? The scoreboard in football is similar to basketball, it is for show other than the time on the clock. And the official down and distance is kept on the field. But that does not stop the media or media people making a fuss about it and it took even Coach Harbaugh (of the Ravens of course) to respond to that accusation about them being confused based on the scoreboard. And not that this situation is exactly the same, but think what the back story would be if the table told them something that was perceived in the interest of the home team and video showed differently? I just would not want to put them in that situation and would not want to be questioned as to why I screwed up and listened to someone with a possible interest in the game. If you would that is fine with me, but we as officials need to get this right, not rely on the table for things like this. I do not rely on them for other judgments in the game, why this?

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