Thread: 2 or 3 points?
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Old Fri Jan 20, 2012, 01:41pm
Camron Rust Camron Rust is offline
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Originally Posted by onetime1 View Post
1) A player attempts a 3 point shot from behind the arc. The defense takes off from inside the arc and clearly blocks the shot. The shot goes in. What is the call?

2) A player from behind the 3 point arc attempts to pass the ball into the post. The defense inside the 3 point line deflects the ball into the basket. What is the call?
#1 is 3 points.

#2 is 2 points.

And here is why...

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Originally Posted by Toren View Post
4.41.4 Situation B

A1's three point try is short and below ring level when it hits the shoulder of B1 and rebounds to the backboard and through the basket.

The three-point try ended when it was obviously short and below the ring. However, since a live ball went through the basket, two points are scored.
The thrown-ball rule was instituted so we do not have to determine if it was a try or a pass.

4.41.4B tells us that when the opportunity for it to go in has clearly ended and a deflection puts it in, it will be 2 points. Since we are not to judge whether it was a try or a pass, substitute pass in for try in 4.41.4B....and you get 2 points.

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Originally Posted by Toren View Post

But if it was a pass that originated outside the 3 point line by A and it hit B in the shoulder and went through the basket, then it's 3 points according to 5.2.1 situation C.
5.2.1C is talking about a ball that is a pass/try towards the basket where the defender gets their fingertips on the ball like a blocked shot....but it still goes in. It is not relevant to a ball thrown nowhere near the basket. The clues to that are buried in the specific words chosen...

"The ball is legally touched by"
"The ball continues in flight and goes through A's basket."

With the wording in 5.2.1C, it is clearly addressing a ball that goes to the basket as a result of the original throw and that a mere "touching" by the defense doesn't change its status. Touching is not bouncing/deflecting the ball in a new direction.
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