[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

If we saw them all independently then of course you look at it differently. But the video shows a number of plays. If they happened in sequence then again, I have a really hard time believing anthing else is on tape from that game that would change my mind. And even if they are out of sequence I really don't think that would happen either.

That is part of the problem, we do not know if they are in sequence. All we know is the guy picked out some plays and considered every one flagrant. We do not see other fouls or potential fouls. There might have been other things that we did not see that could have been called. As a matter of fact we do not see much of what this player did on the offensive end either. That is why I would like to see the entire game and then make some judgments as to how skilled the player was or how much basketball they were playing.

Originally Posted by VaTerp

I've personally never called, and have rarely seen, a flagrant either but I'm pretty sure I'm going flagrant on #5 unless maybe it's the first in that sequence.

I have called one in my career and there was no doubt it was flagrant (player purposely threw and elbow to strike a screener). I have seen bigger players knock smaller players to the floor often. All I am saying is it might not have been something I would have though much of just looking at that individual play. Knowing the game and the circumstances surrounding the game, I might have had a different opinion. And I am not talking about these plays, I am talking about other fouls by both teams and other action that might have contributed to some angst.

Originally Posted by VaTerp

But I guess I'm more trusting the video evidence here more than others. Of course there's a chance I'm wrong but I think I've got a pretty good picture of what happened in that game. And I think most of us know, and are in agreement but the general way of how we would handled it if that's the case.

In fact I think you said it well that what stood out was the complete lack of awareness of this crew.

Remember I said the lack of awareness was about how they reacted to the fouls with bodies falling to the floor, not whether or not they called a foul. Anytime I have a player going to the floor on any kind of hard foul, I am in there to make sure the player does not overreact to the contact. Players will do that even when there is not anything flagrant going on. They acted like nothing could happen or needed to be addressed if you looked at the tape. That was my concern more than anything. Even the player that was fouled near the end line could have overreacted to the contact and the officials just seems like he is calling a foul and walking away.

Peace