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i remember what a seasoned official told me-->a fumble presumes possession. He said you won't find it in the rule book, but take the fumble vs muff definition as in football rules. Fumble implies possession and a muff implies no possession. SO if the player had possession and lost the ball, then travel or dd could be appropriate. But if it was deamed no possession, then travel and dd is impossible. It has kept me out of trouble and easy to explain to the coach.
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