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Originally Posted by wisref2
As a football official, I also know that 50% of football officials will disagree with me whether I say it's an illegal shift or if I say it's illegal motion. Let's say this play happens on the field. Do you get all five guys together for a conference to decide if the signal is going to be one arm or two? Or do you just pick one and go with it? (which was my point)
Give you a good example (and let the argument begin) - tackle A2 is late getting into his three point stance. If he goes down and the ball is snapped without being set for 1 second, it's an illegal shift. Now, let's say as he's going down, the ball is snapped. Is that an illegal shift or illegal motion? The ensuing argument will be:
1 - he isn't done shifting, so he's in motion, thereby, illegal motion.
2 - he is in the process of shifting, not in motion, thereby illegal shift.
3 - false start (these people are disqualified from the conversation)
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Maybe Fed rules are different but a single lineman moving is NEVER a "shift". A "shift" requires 2 or more by definition.
The only times I can think of when you might have illegal motion and illegal shift at the same time are:
1 - 2 players are moving before the snap and do not reset for 1 sec and 1 of them also happens to be moving towards the line of scrimmage at the snap or
2 - 2 players are moving before the snap and do not reset for 1 sec and 1 of them also happens to be a lineman who never stopped and established himself as a "back" (NCAA Rules)