[GarthB]

I really did have nothing to add, but then...well

Also, Garth seems to take the opportunity to tell people how they are suppose to communicate in this forum. Who cares if it is proper or not. Is English 101 being taught?

No, no lessons in English or grammar or spelling or anything else that technical. I suggested that if someone had someting to say to someone that they not hide behind it by supposedly addressing a different audience; rather I would suggest that they honestly address to whom they are speaking. I guess this would come under the category of rhetoric, not English, per se.


Then it seems Garth is doing more to answer for Carl then Carl is doing to answer for himself. I must get my secretary to start doing this for me!


Actually, a careful read would show that I didn't speak for anyone other than myself, and the concerns that I expressed were mind. Those being an honest portrayl of events and the fortitude to address one's actual concerns legitmately and honestly.

I am not here to defend Carl. I don't believe I did. I became interested in the events being discussed and, without speaking with Carl or anyone else, read everything I could find printed and posted on the matter.

This odd behavior of mine is not limited to issues in which Carl is mentioned or involved. In the past I've addressed similar issues in a similar manner when posters have made similar mistakes about Peter Osborne, T. Alan Christensen, Warren Willson, Dave St. Clair, Scott Taylor, Umphater, and even, to the amazement of some, I'm sure, Jim Porter. (Quite a diverse group with divergent agendas, wouldn't you say?)

I did not get involved in this issue because of any personality, I got involved first of all to discover the truth of matter and then secondly to suggest that there are better and more successful ways to air a grievance.

I addressed what actually happened, not anyone's version of events, and if in so doing, flaws in the presentations of others were exposed, so be it.

And finally, after everything was put out on the floor by Striker and he was told he was wrong and incorrect, we got a response from the Secretary stating that things had developed and were being answered.

You seem to connect two different issues. I don't believe Striker was told that his apparent main grief was incorrect, that being he has issues with Carl. I'm sure he does. Many do. I have in the past. The list is too numerous to mention here.

However, as I read what actually happened it became obvious that Striker's interpretation of the intent of others and of some alleged actions were indeed incorrect. That has nothing to do with the resolution. The resolution was civil and appropriate and was not directed at Striker's issues, but rather addressed Mr. Konyars issues.

That is all it takes. No balls...no blue chips. Garth, make sure you address us "lower level" umps, you do it perfectly correct. Show us how it is done.

I'm not sure I know what you mean here and I fear trying to guess. I do not know who is a "low level" umpire. I do not know you or Striker. I said nothing in a manner to either of you that I would not say to a top level umpire who had made similar statements. I do not always communicate correctly, but with some few exceptions I do try to keep the real issues in mind.

Where can I get Carl's secretary's rule book on this forums proper entry's and how it SHOULD be according to Garth?

Look as I may over my previous posts I find no personal or derogatory or suggestive comment about you, whowefoolin. I have to admit your attack and insinuations surprise me. Lord knows, I've succumbed to provocation in the past and made a fool of myself, but I'll try to maintain better this time.

There's no such book to my knowledge. Simply attempt to be civil, refrain from getting too personal and stick to the facts of the matter. If you have something to say, say it truthfully, limit the exaggeration, put away the broad brush and pettiness and get to the subject.

None of that should sound like I'm trying to teach anyone anything. We've all been taught that by others, already, starting in kindergarten.

[Edited by GarthB on Mar 4th, 2003 at 05:17 PM]