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Originally posted by JRutledge
If this is about evidence to you, there is enough out there.
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Well, then show me some! Please!! I've been begging for you to show me just a little. That's all I've been asking for. I need you to show it to me b/c I honestly have never seen it.
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One of your boys just made a claim that you just said no one said in this thread alone. He qualified it, but it was still said.
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Another PTI reference. I get it this time!
But what was said earlier in the thread? Can you quote the passage you're talking about? I just looked back thru the thread and I'm honestly not sure what you're referring to. Thanks.
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You have no right to tell me what to say
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First, I don't think that I've told you that you have to say or not say anything. I did say you should "shut up about it", but that was mostly for effect and probably a little over the line. I've asked (even said "please"
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Second (and now I'm getting very far afield, indeed), I do in fact have the right to tell you what to say. I'd be stupid to think that you'd listen to me; but as you have pointed out in the past, this is a discussion forum and I can say whatever I want. That includes saying that you can't say something. I would never actually do that, however; nor would I expect you to conform to such an order. I think that goes without saying
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it is very offensive for you to tell me how to form my opinions or my arguments here or anywhere for that matter.
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As I said in an earlier post, people in our culture take offense much too easily. I don't know how you form your opinions. I'm not telling you how to form your opinions. I'm merely telling you that one statement that you made is false. And why would you take offense at someone telling you how to form an argument? Isn't that what philosophy professors and law professors do all the time? The only thing I've said about making an arguement is that you are almost always required to give evidence of some sort.
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Just because you want some evidence. I just gave you some in this post,
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No you didn't. You simply said that there was evidence somewhere earlier in the thread. But as I said, I honestly don't know what you're pointing to. So if you could quote the passage that you're referring to, maybe we can get this thing settled. I'd like that.
Because as I've repeatedly requested, if you can show me any evidence at all -- one post, or one sentence -- where somebody seriously suggested that rule knowledge is the only necessary component of being an outstanding official, then I will forever take your side in this argument and will never mention it again. But if you can't produce it, I think you would gain mountains of respect and credibility by saying simply that you were mistaken and that you won't repeat the falsehood again.
Chuck
[Edited by ChuckElias on Feb 27th, 2003 at 07:26 PM]