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Originally posted by JRutledge
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by JRutledge
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You have to have Team Control or Player Control before the ball can be set in the frontcourt by rule. And during a throw-in, neither can be present until someone grabs and takes control of the ball.
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Why do they have to "grab" the ball on the throw-in to establish team or player control? Do you have a rules citation that will back that statement up? Can't they establish player control,and thus team control,by just tapping the ball to the floor with one hand and then dribbling,or even just dribbling immediately when they first touch the ball-without grabbing the ball at any time? [/B]
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I am so sorry that folks like yourself cannot understand that you need to establish some kind of ball control (not the wording in the rulebook I might add) in order to even have a backcourt violation. Usually a player "grabs the ball" to gain possession. If we use your logic, then we would have double dribbles all day long.[/B][/QUOTE]I understand fully and completely how player,and thus team control is established.I certainly understand that a player does NOT have to grab the ball on a throw-in to establish player control,as you claimed above.Player control is holding OR dribbling a live ball inbounds,as per NFHS Rule 4-12-1.If you have a rules citation that states that a player has to grab,grasp or hold a throw-in first to establish team control,please enlighten me,as I am not aware of one.
Unfortunately, folks like me really do understand this rule.Unless you can cite a rule that says anything different than what I posted above,may I suggest that folks like you are the ones that don't really understand this rule.
Btw,I am arguing this from a rules standpoint only.There's nothing personal involved.I've made my point,and backed it up with a rules citation.Unless you can give me some type of rules citation to back your claim,it would just be a waste of time for me to argue this further by repeating the same rules citation over and over.