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Originally Posted by btaylor64
NCAA Rule 4 Section 37 b
a held ball occurs when an opponent places his or her hand(s):
b. On the ball to prevent an airborne player from throwing the ball or
attempting a try and both players return to the playing court with
both hands on the ball or (men) the airborne player returns to the
playing court never losing control of the ball.
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef
The bolded part makes this a judgement call. A mere touch isn't going to do it for me.
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Originally Posted by btaylor64
It doesn't say "AND" or "AND/OR" it just says "OR" and I take that to mean that this can happen and it is a jump ball OR this can happen and it is still a jump ball. they are separate acts of which both, SEPARATELY, are considered jump balls. The two aren't intertwined by saying "AND" or "AND/OR"
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You are caught up on the wrong "OR". I agree that either situation around the "OR" you're referring to can independently lead to the violation.
The key part of this that I think you are missing is highlighted above. A mere touch doesn't necessarily "
prevent an airborne player from
throwing the ball or attempting a try".