[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

And what part of f-bomb don't you and the AD understand? It's a JV game which is an extension of the classroom, so the f-bomb is not allowed nor tolerated. You want to keep splitting hairs about this, Rich?

I am not getting this splitting of hairs either. We throw people out in baseball (or it is advocated) all the time in other areas of baseball, but we want warnings for players using the most unacceptable words? Really?

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

First of all, Rut, my check to you is in the mail and you should receive it Monday.

I will send you the wire transfer number as that might come quicker than a check (do not get me started!!! ).

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Everybody here knows that I can go on flights of fancy and hyperbole and very capable of making a short story long (case in point: this post, ). Every official has his own tolerance for profanity, the F-bomb, the N-word, taunting, and other unsportsmanlike conduct. That tolerance is also determined by the sport being officiated because one sport's penalities for such conduct can not easily be applied to another sport's penalities for such conduct.

Those who post on the Basketball Forum know my position on profanity, the F-bomb, the N-word, taunting, and other unsportsmanlike conduct. I guess one could describe me as old school (Note to Basketball Forum readers: Not that Old School.). I was raised to compete in a way that one could play hard, have emmotion, repsect your opponent, and still conduct onself as a lady or gentleman on the field of competition. Sadly, there are certain elements within the world of sport who find that philosophy quaint to say the least.

And in baseball unlike even basketball or football, there are no penalties that can be used before an ejection. With that being said, I know many officials in basketball and football that would eject anyone use for the use of these words listed above without much exception. I am not sure I agree with that personally, but I know those that have no exceptions and that is their right to have those standards. I do not hold onto that position only because if I ejected a player for that I would have to eject everyone soon for similar language. And just like anything in life context matters to me. It is different if you are saying something to yourself for making a bad play and no one can hear you, then saying something to me as an official or to an opponent.

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I believe that I handled my conversation correctly and I am not alone in this position. That is, a sports official's official comments should be succinct and to the point. They should be germain to the subject being discussed and nothing more. There is a good reason for this position: Silence can not be misquoted and is very difficult to be quoted out of context.

I think I have said enough for a while.

MTD, Sr.

And this is another reason that many states do not require such conversation with anyone at the school. When we have an ejection in Illinois, all we do is file what is called a Special Report. This is done online and the information is sent directly to the AD and Principal of that school. We are not to contact the school or the IHSA about the result or punishment. The same would go if someone filed a Special Report on us. We do not contact the school or official to get clarification. Nothing good can come out of that. If the IHSA wants to talk to us, they can contact us for clarification. But those reports should be specific and to the point. No editorializing what we think or why we think the events took place. We give the exact words and the rules that apply and some facts about when it took place in the game.

Peace