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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Not sure to whom you're referring, but I was very clear that my statements on the T were based on local practice in three separate metro areas in which I've worked. I'm not even sure the NFHS was mentioned other than to note that frustration with oneself or teammates is not an excuse for language that would otherwise draw a T.
You're the only one who suggested that your area might not condone such a call when the player's words are not directed towards the officials. Of course, even then, it seemed you would likely call the T but your backtracking, twists, and turns indicated you really didn't want to tell us what you'd do.
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I said there are people that I work for that would not want a T for what we discussed with language based on the way the situation was described. I stand by that and since I have worked for some of these people for almost 10 years and heard of situations where Ts were given in leagues and how they were received, I stand by that comment. Context (and you who work for) matters to me even in this situation. And I can tell you if someone gave a T with seconds on the clock for this situation with the jersey, they would have to explain that to the supervisor at some point. And the "It is in the NF book" is not a good answer.
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
It's a funny thing about consistently leaving yourself an out and taking advantage of it when called to the carpet; people stop trusting what you say and start wondering what you meant.
I might be able to think of a few words that, without context, match or exceed the F word in universal derision; but they're all racial or sexual.
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Snaq,
The bottom line is I want context to judge if I am going to call these situations properly. If you do not want context then so be it. It is a rules violation to pull out your jersey on the court, but even for you that would not give a T in this situation if I read your comments correctly. It is clear to me that for you this is OK to overlook, but then you set standards that are not necessarily in the rulebook by saying a certain word is an "automatic T" while not being consistent and saying other words elicit the same reaction. I think your problem is I do not agree with you on that situation and then there is a problem with what I am saying. I just find your position and others ironic when you clearly use a "personal standard" for giving a T when it works for you, but then want to be critical of others that do the same in other issues. And no matter how much the NF tries to tell people to apply all their rules, this is not going to ever happen unless they start assigning games and evaluating officials. Until then, all of these issues will stay local on some level.
Peace