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Originally Posted by Rich Ives

It means "the play never happened". If it didn't happen, there were no outs.

To nullify the advance you need to put the runners back where they started. You can only do that if they are NOT out.

MLBUM 3.2

Any advance or outs made because of an improper batter becoming a runner would be nullified if the defensive team appeals at the proper time. (Outs made because of a pick-off or caught stealing while the improper batter is at bat are legal.) Play is to revert back to the position of the runners at the time the improper batter took a position in the batter's box (with the exception of advances covered in the Note to Official Baseball Rule 6.07(b) or outs made on a pick-off or steal play while the improper batter is at bat).

This is why you cannot use just the rule book. You need the interpretations, and rulings made by the official sources (MLBUM, PBUC, FED Case book and Postings) and other authoratative sources (Evans, Roder, BRD). You also need to "keep up" as things get revised annually. Make sure you have the latest info. Keep using forums like this and others that can help keep you informed and point you to the other sources you need. Glad you're trying to learn - it's a good thinh.

So being put out is considered part of an advance and is therefore nullified. I've always been a strict FED only ump so I don't have the OBR references. Thanks.