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Originally posted by ChuckElias
None of us here, except Sven, saw the play in question. So perhaps we are each seeing a differing degree of contact. With that in mind, this is probably my last two cents on the subject.
In the very first post of the thread, Sven has told us that the defender was not displaced, and that the dribbler was able to go around the defender. Since the defender was not displaced, the probability that I'm going to call a PC here is next to nil. The defender has not been hindered from performing any further normal defensive maneuvers. She's still standing exactly where she was. So I see no way that you could call the contact illegal. Therefore, no PC.
Because the defender legally placed herself directly in the dribbler's path, the dribbler was forced to go around. She was able to do this; although the slight contact with the defender caused her to step OOB. (I refuse to even discuss a T for being OOB here!  ) But since the defender was there legally (we stipulated that earlier in the thread), this cannot be a blocking foul. The dribbler was able to keep the ball inbounds and was able to return her feet inbounds before touching the ball again. So no OOB call -- unless you judge that she continued her dribble when she stepped OOB.
So what do we have? No way I'm calling a PC without displacement in this situation. Even less chance of calling a blocking foul. The ball never went OOB. What we have is great defense and a very athletic point guard. No call.
Chuck
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Chuck: If the play happens as you describe it here I am w/ you 100%. I think it is very true that we sometimes add things to case plays on this forum. It creates great discussion.
what I am asking now is, the defender is planted on the sideline so the dribbler has to go OOB to avoid contact. She/he pushes the ball forward just before the contact, goes around the defender OOB and returns inbounds and continues the dribble. Have anything???