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Old Tue Jan 11, 2011, 06:07pm
TimTaylor TimTaylor is offline
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Originally Posted by Camron Rust View Post
6-7-7. Ball is dead when A2 commits the foul. A1 shot a dead ball. The whistle only notifies everyone that a foul had occurred....it doesn't mark the exact time of the foul. Check out any of the many cases plays comparing the timing of a foul by A relative to the release of a shot. They are unanimously consistent in referring to when the infractions occur, not when the official blows the whistle.

Whether you want to call the T or not call the T in the case being discussed is OBVIOUSLY debatable and I've have to be absolutely sure before I did call a T. However, that is not the point being debated. The point being debates is that if a foul (T in this case) is called, the rules are quite clear that the ball is dead at the time of the act that draws the foul (6-7-7).

Any reference to 6.4.1 is a distraction. All it says is you can't kill the ball and give the ball back to the other team to correct the throwin mistake....nothing more. It is silent about what happens if another infraction occurs and is called. This case is a red herring in the purest sense.

Modified play:
Team B is incorrectly given the ball for the throw in. B1 passes the ball in to B3. B2 attempts to set a screen for B3 but does so illegally, committing a foul on A2. B3 releases the shot just after B2 fouls A2. Having not anticipated the call, the official then blows the whistle for B3's illegal screen. Does the shot count? Yes or No?
Depends when the foul occurs - if it's before the release, then ball becomes dead per 6-7-7 & we disallow the try. If the ball is in flight when the foul occurs, then exception "a" applies.

Regarding whether to call a T in the situation being discussed, see my reply to Snaq above.
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