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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by DownTownTonyBrown
I agree Bob. Rule 10-3-9 makes the differentiation for a player technical as "intentionally or flagrantly contacting an opponent..."
So what is your answer to the original question Bob? How is a flagrant foul administered? How do you tell the coaches/audience that a flagrant foul has been committed?
Also, reading the note at the end of section 10-3, I get the feeling that there is no ejection for a PERSONAL flagrant foul - only for the technical flagrant. Is that right?
What are some other examples of a flagrant act besides fighting? I had assumed that flagrant acts included some deliberateness... some intention.
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1)For a flagrant foul,you notify the player that he/she has been disqualified,then notify the scorer of the flagrant foul(and it's type-personal or technical),then tell the coach that his player has been disqualified for the flagrant foul.
2)For the penalty for a personal flagrant foul,see Rule 10-6PENALTY,plus Summary of Penalties(#4)on next page.
3)Examples of a flagrant act besides fighting are kicking,kneeing,or any violent contact that you might wanna call flagrant.
4)Right out of the definition in R4-19-4,it states that a flagrant personal foul may or may not be intentional.It's done that way,I think,to stop the second-guessing when you toss someone.
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JR,
Question on your #1....For a flagrant foul, etc....
Would you not want to inform the coach first, like you would when a player has fouled out? By informing the coach first, that then makes the player bench personnel (immediately putting the responsibility of that player on the coach), then if that player happens to do anything else 'crazy' that warrants additional technical(s) before he leaves the court, those additional technical(s) would then also go as indirect to the coach.
This might sound irrelevant, but I think there is some merit to it. Thoughts?