Thread: FTs or no FTs
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Old Sat Dec 18, 2010, 10:22am
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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. View Post

The orginal Casebook Play from the late 1970's was discussed quite a bit in a thread on this Forum a couple of years ago and the result was the definition of a SF added to the Rules Book with it having the same penalty as DPF and DTF; the key being that no free throws are shot and the ball is put back into play via Point of Interruption (which could be via AP). This really did not change the original Casebook Play with regard to using the AP, except free throws are not longer shot. This was the ruling that I gave during the thread and the addition of the SF definition to the Rules Book supported my ruling; it is a shame though that the people that are responsible for these rulings at the NFHS and NCAA would take the time to do the research, they would have found the Casebook Play that I referenced and would have only tweaked the original Casebook Play to eliminate the free throws.
Gee, that ain't my recollection of this argument - held both here and on McGriffs back around 2001. Iirc you were the only person that insisted that a simultaneous personal fouls were really a false double foul and had to be penalized in order with FT's being shot. Everybody else unanimously said that simultaneous personal fouls should be treated exactly like simultaneous technical fouls, with no FT's taken and an AP. And a few months later, the FED issued the rule clarification cited by me below that said you were wrong and the rest of the world was right.

And as I've already said, I've never heard of that case play either. Simultaneous fouls of any kind have never been a false double foul to my best recollection. They can't possibly be because their basic definitions are completely different.

And to also sum up again, does anybody really care anyway?
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