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Originally Posted by M&M Guy
Is there a difference between the following scenarios?:
- A player tries to block a shot, and ends up slapping the shooter in the face with their open palm.
- A player slaps another player in the face with their open palm, away from the ball, but it is clear the intent was to slap the player.
In both cases, the level and type of contact is exactly the same.
- While diving for loose ball, a player on the floor hits another player with their foot/leg.
- Away from the ball, a player on the floor kicks another player as they try to separate from each other.
In both cases, the level of force and contact are exactly the same.
- A player trying to slide in front of a moving opponent is late getting to the spot and ends up hitting/kicking the opponent with their leg.
- A stationary player setting a screen decides to simply kick the opponent as they run by.
In both cases, the level of force and contact are exactly the same.
Are you saying the intent of the contact has nothing to do with the call (or no-call), and only because the contact was with the leg/foot it has to be an intentional foul?
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The level of contact can have a great deal to do with it or it can have absolutely nothing to do with deeming a foul to be intentional.
For your plays with an attempt made to contact the ball, the intentional personal foul could be justified by the excessive contact language of rule 4-19-3.
For the plays away from the ball we have the 2nd sentence of that passage.