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Originally posted by Hawks Coach
I understand the rule, and it is very clear. However, it is not clear to me that it needs to be enforced here. Lets take the extreme. Lead is administering a baseline throw-in while trail is bringing in subs. Lead mistakenly gives the ball to A1 right when B1 first steps on the court. You have a T for this? To me, that is six players on the court, and a live ball, but completely the fault of the ref. Seems to me you can use some elasticity to get this one right.
This is far different from B subbing in 3, having 2 leave, and you making the ball live without counting (arguably a game management issue, but you are justified in giving the T here). The case I am referring to is where you make the ball live without allowing B to complete a normal substitution. It is ridiculous to say that the rules require you to now give a T to B and give A two FTs.
You are allowed to make things right in cases like this and this is clearly one where you should do so - you made the error. Admit it and then restart the game.
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Hawks:
Totally agree w/ this rationale. Here is an easy solution to prevent the problem that not enough officals utilize IMO. In your pregame (yes I think you should have one even if you have worked together 5000 years) Remind each other that the administering official WILL NOT put the ball in play while I have my hand in the air and am bringing in subs. When I have counted the 10 players I will drop the stop clock signal and now put ball in play. If you are the official bringing in subs maintain as much eye contact w/ your partner (administering official) as possible and if you see that he/she is even thinking about putting the ball in play you are getting on your whistle to get his attention. IMO sub violations such as this happen due to a lack of concentration on our part. Unfortunately sometimes a T gets called on you guys for our error. Too bad there is not a way you all could call a T on us once in a while.... wait a minute there would be none of us refs left
Like I said IMO this should not happen if both officials heads are in the game and good preventative officiating as well as a pregame should keep this from happening. The T is meant for the player who runs onto the court w/out being beckoned IMO.