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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA
It is ASA and my ruling would be two bases from the time the defender last touched the ball based upon the July 2009 Rule Clarification that a fielder who kicks a ball and it leaves play based on that impetus (as opposed to that of a batted ball deflecting off a fielder and leaving play) being handled the same as if the fielder threw the ball.
Since F5 redirected the ball to the point of causing it to leave play that is the point from which my award will be.
For those who believe the runner has any bearing on this, citations please and, BTW, 8.5.I.4, 8.7.L is not in effect, but 8.8.F is
Now, 8.5.I.2 may be in contention, but you would have to ignore the aforementioned rules classification. I don't believe being a batted ball had anything to do with the ball entering DBT.
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The way I interpret the clarification you mention is that in that clarification, the fielder "kicked" the ball (apparently unintentionally), which is different from simply being deflected. The ball's momentum was provided by the fielder, not by the hit.
In this sitch, we're dealing with a deflected ball that was unintentionally pushed/kicked into DBT by the runner, not due to the fielder's actions. I'd be hard-pressed to give a potentially higher award to the runners as a result of something the runners themselves created, albeit unintentionally.
I vote 8-5-I-2 or 8-5-I-4, and the award should be made from the time of the pitch, not the deflection.