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Old Fri Jan 17, 2003, 10:45am
Ed Hickland Ed Hickland is offline
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Re: Re: Penalty Enforcement???

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Originally posted by mikesears

This is my guess at is.

We have a PSK foul on R so I'm assuming this means R got the ball with "clean hands". The enforcement spot for the PSK foul is either going to be the end of the kick (or, depending upon the action, the spot of the foul????). K's foul complicates matters a little and the rest of the action is unimportant. If R wants to keep the ball, the must decline K's penalty and R's penalty will be enforced from the end of the kick. (Where R gained possession??)

If R accepts K's foul, we have a double-foul ??? and replay of the down???

[Edited by mikesears on Jan 16th, 2003 at 07:25 AM]
My question is when does possession change? Under the previous rule the ball stayed in team possession of K until R secured player and team possession.

If team possession changes when the ball crosses the neutral zone the concept of "clean hands" would not apply becuase the ball already belongs to R.

If that is so, the situation presented is a double foul. A double foul is a "do over" back to the previous spot.

But the previous spot was before change of possession, surely that cannot be possible because you would give the ball back to K.

So my guess is the spot of enforcement would be the spot where R took possession, penalties offset, first and ten for R.

Now I understand why the rules makers did not want this change!
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