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Originally Posted by johnnyg08
I don't think the sticking point is the "effort" at all...how doesn't that play wrap up mbcrowder's question on the proper base award.
It not about me being right or wrong all I did was copy it from MLBUM...but now I think you're starting to make up things that aren't there.
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Does the fielder after catching the ball have possession? Yes, then the possession part is not in question, it's the effort part, did he make a legitimate effort to retire the runner, with possession? Although your play addresses the award part of the play it doesn't address whether the play was a first play. The rule didn't come into effect. The only comes into play when the runner obtains his advance base before the throw, thus the necessity to distinguish between time of pitch and time of throw. In your play the runner was "just short of second when throw was made". I didn't make up your play, just pointed out what was wrong with it in relation to whether a catch was a play or not.