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Originally Posted by txtrooper
...I said, if in the umpire’s judgment, three steps could be a commitment to second.
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No, it can't. That is nowhere in the LBR. The umpire does not get to arbitrarily "judge" when the runner committed.
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Originally Posted by txtrooper
Just as a runner who rounds first and is tagged, the umpire has to make a call based on their judgment, taking into consideration if an attempt toward second was made.
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Apples and pomegranates.
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Originally Posted by txtrooper
On the LBR, I am looking at the whole rule under 8.7.T.3.a.b.c.d.e. Neither d nor e requires a stop for the rule to come into effect.
Under a. the rule allows the runner to stop once and immediately make a determination of whether they are going to advance or return to the base.
Where I question the rule is c, d and e all use the term committed to a base. Under a, the author did not use the term committed to second base, although it is implied that a commitment can be made prior to a stop, as in d and e. with all that being said, I believe that it could be cleaned up and explained better. It is apparent that the rule is not called the same at every ball park and I believe that most of us want to make the right calls, although because of the rule there is some confusion among umpires.
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The umpire does not get to arbitrarily decide which section of the LBR to apply. This is from the OP:
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Originally Posted by SamG
...BR runs to 1st, rounds it, goes three steps off (toward 2nd), then stops, and goes back to 1st....
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Now, from that, which part of the LBR applies? (Hint: it ain't 8-7-T-3-b, c, d, or e.)