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Originally Posted by umpharp
ASA SP....one man (but the play could happen in any division)
Bases loaded with 2 outs. R1 on 3B, R2 on 2B and R3 on 1B
ground ball to deep short. SS kicks the ball around for a while then throws to 3rd. 3B goes for a swipe tag on R2 but misses. R2 also misses 3B. Stupid 3rd baseman then throws to 2b to try to get R3 who is about 3 or 4 inches off of second base. R2 starts home, gets half way, decides to go back. R2 gets tagged out. The question is....does R1 score?
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Don't know, did he touch the plate prior to R2 being tagged?
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After delaying for a minute as the defense went into the dugout, I announced that the run counted.
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Don't hesitate. This is a sell call, make it immediately.
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The coach came out and asked why since it was a force. I explained that it was not a force, once he had reached third base, it was no longer a force and it was now a timing play. The coach then said, "he never touched third." I didn't say anything and waited a second for the coach to say those magic words, but he never did. He told me I was wrong and we went on our merry little way for the rest of the game.
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Two things here. I agree with Steve, this qualifies as an appeal. The coach wasn't guessing and made a statement of fact. This isn't Jeopardy, there is no requirement to make the appeal in the form of a question.
And it would be a proper appeal, if the coach were authorized to make it. An infielder may make a dead ball appeal prior to the pitcher and all infielders have left fair territory.
The coach has every right to question the run, but the appeal on a missed base is not his to make.