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Old Fri Jul 23, 2010, 01:53pm
MD Longhorn MD Longhorn is offline
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There's no such thing as the first sentence.

The umpire flubbed this one big time. This runner was forced the minute the batter became a batter-runner.

Imagine if the umpire was right - runners could avoid obvious double plays by simply staying on the previous base - there's no way anyone could get the 2nd out. 2 outs. Easy call.
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