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Originally Posted by asdf
My examples of "what if's" are very likely to happen in a game.
The contact by B1 on A1 is exactly the same, the immdiate result (the pass) is the same, yet in one example A has a distinct advantage and in the other A has no advantage.
You pass on the foul in the former, but do not pass on the later.
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This is my whole point - the official does not pass on a foul. The official determines the contact to be incidental in one instance, but not incidental, and thus a foul, in another.
We are not disagreeing about the final result of each play. I am still trying to point out your usage of the terms, and the confusion it can cause. The definition of "
foul" is specific - it is
illegal contact. We all agree
contact could be illegal in one situation, and the same contact be incidental in another. But we cannot determine the contact to be illegal in both cases, but call the foul in one and pass on the foul in another.
It's a subtle difference, but it is important in how you communicate with players and coaches.