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Old Sat Jun 26, 2010, 05:14pm
Jurassic Referee Jurassic Referee is offline
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Originally Posted by Scrapper1 View Post
1) So you guys are going to allow a player to move into an airborne player's landing spot after that player has gone airborne? He's not turning or ducking, as allowed in 4-23-3e. He has intentionally left his defensive spot and moved (backwards, I grant you) into the shooter's landing spot.

2) In an extreme example, suppose A1 is able to jump clear over B1, who has obtained a LGP. B1, seeing that A1 will completely clear him, takes two strides straight backwards so that A1 lands directly on him. You gonna say this is ok? He had LGP and moved only backwards. This is exactly the same as what you point out above. So he still has LGP?
1) Rule 4-24-4(c) says that if a defender is guarding a player with the ball, then that defender must have established a legal position BEFORE the player went airborne. Note that it says a "legal position" and not a "legal guarding position". Did B1 have a legal position in the play being discussed. Yes, indeedy!
And 4-23-3(b,c&d) say that the defender isn't required to face the opponent, can move laterally or obliquely to maintain LGP, can raise hands and jump within his vertical plane, and may turn or duck to avoid the contact. What the rules say that you can't do is stick out an appendage and have primary contact made on that appendage, or be moving towards the player with the ball when contact occurs. Iow, if the defender is there legally, and stays in front of the offensive player--airborne or not--the onus by rule lies with the offensive player.
The defender is NOT moving INTO the airborne shooter's landing spot. The defender was legally IN the airborne shooter's landing spot BEFORE the airborne shooter went airborne. And the defender never moved INTO the airborne shooter's landing spot AFTER the offensive player went airborne either. Nope, he didn't move sideways or forward. The defender just maintained his legal spot on the court.
Can you cite a rule that will back up what you're saying? I can't think of any.

2) That play has absolutely nothing to do with what we're discussing. TWP.

Last edited by Jurassic Referee; Sat Jun 26, 2010 at 05:16pm.
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