SNAQ we are in agreement when you say "A1 and is phyisically impeded from doing so by a moving A2, you have to consider a foul on A2 regardless of whether A2 is a "cutter. He may be trying to cut for a pass." and about refereening the defense. One of the big ideas behind running a screen and roll is for the screener to get a pass from the ball handler. If the defense can't get around a cutter, I will determine why and whistle accordingly.
JURASSIC the only thing we seem to disagree on is you stating I asserted something I did not. And you know what happens when you assert? Sort of the same thing as assuming but different. Sometimes I thnk you just like to disagree with of my posts simply b/c I posted them
RUST I don't know how to do the multiple quote thing so bear with me:
Why can't the screener become a cutter? If all legal requirements of a screen are met, then after the screen why cant they cut?
If it prevents them from defending their opponent, it is a screen...and is subject to screening rules. Nothing else matters
If you are refering to this play then I agree.
My point was that once contact is broken on the initial screen, contact between the defender and cutter is not an automatic foul on the cutter, and I would be inclined not to call a blocking foul on the cutter based on the reasons I stated.
What does that have to do with anything?
The screen doesn't have to be legal only for one contact, it must be legal as long as it is preventing the opponent from reaching a desired
One has a whole lot to do with the other. It goes back to when is a screener no longer a screener. If the screener has the inability to become a cutter then basically, a screener must stand in one place until the entire play is finished. Because if they move and contact the person originally screened it is a moving screen. As Jurassic said, if they are setting a screen they are governed by the screening rules. If they are a cutter they are goverened by the rules for a cutter.
Again, when is a screener no longer a screener? That is the key action. When that has been determined is when you determine if they rules regarding a cutter or screener come into play.