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Old Mon Mar 08, 2010, 05:49pm
jeffpea jeffpea is offline
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells View Post
Jeff, the hypothetical is rediculous for two reasons:
1. It would never happen. Have you ever had a player throw the ball of his own head out of frustration? I've never seen it, but I have had quite a few players utter profanities out of personal frustration.
2. The direction from my state has nothing to do with bouncing the ball out of frustation, it was all about profanity, so it's not even applicable to my point.

Does the object of the player's frustation have any bearing on how we call unsporting T's? Yes, absolutely. Does that exempt a player from penalty if he's directing it towards himself? No.

And for the record, I'm not advocating you (or jeffpea) go against the prevailing norms in your areas. If a player shouting "sh1t" loud enough for the maintenance crew to hear it in the basement isn't all-but-automatic for you, so be it.
ok....so you don't like my hypothetical...instead of hitting himself with the ball, what if he slapped himself in the face/head area? if striking someone in a combative manner is deemed to be a flagrant foul/flagrant technical, should you call that when a player does it to himself?

as for following the directives of your state association, I'm all for it. in Illinois, a team made it to the semi-finals of the state tournament last year while wearing illegal uniforms (they were only penalized during the semi-finals on the final weekend). none of the nine officials that did not penalize them during their prior games received assignments in this years tournament (hmmm, I wonder why?).

the state association made illegal uniforms a big emphasis this year and required officials to penalize teams and notify the state about schools w/ illegal uniforms....to date 96 boys teams have been deemed to wear illegal uniforms (they have been given a written waiver that they are required to show officials prior to tip-off or face an automatic T). some officials don't want to be the "fashion police" and assess the T, but I say when you're told to do so by the state association - you either do it (and get assignments) or don't (and face the consequences).
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