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			I firmly believe what Tony and Chuck have written.   This really isn't even a judgment call since 4-15-4 Note 2 tells us that the player does not have control in this specific case.  
 Although, sometimes it is much more difficult to tell at what point a player has established control.  Particularly when a player is attempting to start a dribble.  I posted a thread on this type of action about a week ago.
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