Man, I have a lot to learn.....

Jurassic Referee

mutantducky wrote
1) I don't like giving cheap fouls and the advantage is on a questionable that could go either way give it too a teammate.

2) Star player with 4 fouls does a little grab and push to get a rebound. Minor foul but it allowed him to get the ball.

3) Good call in the first half but not in the last five minutes.

1) Here's a better idea. Don't call cheap and/or questionable fouls in the first place and you won't have to worry about this.

2) How can it be a minor foul if it allowed him to get the ball? Methinks you really don't understand the concept of using advantage/disadvantage

3) Are you serious? 😮

To sum up, you don't believe in advantage/disadvantage or consistency in calling a game, but you do believe in calling cheap, questionable fouls as long as you can give it to a teammate and not to a player with 4 fouls.

Great advice! 🙄

Lah me.......

Jesse James

shavano wrote
About 3:30 left in third, we're at a full TO. R comes to me and asked me the "status" of the game; score, time left, foul counts, anybody with foul problems... I got fouls and approx. time left, missed score by a few, and had no clue about players in foul trouble. Talk about red faced....:o

With the possible exception of the team foul counts, how relevant is it to commit any of these to memory in the third quarter?

grunewar

Jesse James wrote
With the possible exception of the team foul counts, how relevant is it to commit any of these to memory in the third quarter?

Good game management skills should be used throughout the game. It's not something you "turn on" with two minutes to go in the 4th quater.

JMO.

Jesse James

grunewar wrote
Good game management skills should be used throughout the game. It's not something you "turn on" with two minutes to go in the 4th quater.

JMO.

Sure they should.

But that still doesn't detail for me the importance of memorizing the aforementioned parts (score, time left, foul problems-yeesh) of the game in the third quarter.

GoodwillRef

Jesse James wrote
Sure they should.

But that still doesn't detail for me the importance of memorizing the aforementioned parts (score, time left, foul problems-yeesh) of the game in the third quarter.

Why do schools buy those fancy scoreboards if I have to memorize the score...if I have to memorize the score, fouls, foul troubled youths, time left, time outs left, #34 favorite after game meal, I WANT A RAISE!!! 🙂

DLH17

GoodwillRef wrote
Why do schools buy those fancy scoreboards if I have to memorize the score...if I have to memorize the score, fouls, foul troubled youths, time left, time outs left, #34 favorite after game meal, I WANT A RAISE!!! 🙂

I love it!

jTheUmp

Do you think it's important to know the exact score, as opposed to having a general idea of the size of the lead?

Usually I'd be hard-pressed to know the exact score of a game, but I generally try keep a good idea of the relative score: "Home team is up by a bunch (10+)", "Visitors are leading by a few (4-10)", "Score is pretty much tied (within three points either way)"

chartrusepengui

jTheUmp wrote
Do you think it's important to know the exact score, as opposed to having a general idea of the size of the lead?

Usually I'd be hard-pressed to know the exact score of a game, but I generally try keep a good idea of the relative score: "Home team is up by a bunch (10+)", "Visitors are leading by a few (4-10)", "Score is pretty much tied (within three points either way)"

My wife when I get home: "who won?"
Me: "I did"

when you start caring too much about the exact score/ player fouls etc you simply have stopped doing the job you were contracted to do. Let the scorer do their job and you do yours!

Adam

Oh I don't know. The score matters. Last night's game is an example. With under 10 seconds left in over time, white was up 5 and blue had the ball in the FC coming out of a TO. It was worth knowing the score so we would be aware of Blue's likely tactic; score quickly and foul quickly.

Knowing the score doesn't equate to caring who wins.

That said, in the third quarter, I'm likely to just have a general idea of the score and clock.

jTheUmp

Same here.

It's not that I care who wins, it's that I want to know if one team or the other might try using different tactics then they had been previously... running a delay offense instead of going for quick transition baskets, pressing, fouling quickly to stop the clock, etc.

A Pennsylvania Coach

Jesse James wrote
Sure they should.

But that still doesn't detail for me the importance of memorizing the aforementioned parts (score, time left, foul problems-yeesh) of the game in the third quarter.

Last night, last HS game of the year for me. Fourth quarter and we have a violation of some sort. I see the timer waving at me. I look at the scoreboards and they are both out. I head over to the table while asking my partner, "2:05 left, right?" He shrugs.

Plug finds its way back into the socket or something and the board comes on. 2:04. 😀 Visiting coach ribs me about not knowing the right time. If the scoreboard would've reset, it would've been a pretty good thing that I didn't wait until the last two minutes of the fourth to start with my game awareness.

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