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Originally posted by papa bear
4th down and 6 yds. to go on the opponents 11 yd. line. we run a sweep and get 2 yds. our QB is hit late out of bounds. the ref. calls dead ball foul personal foul. he marks it half the distance to the goal( about the 4 and a half yd. line) and gives the defense the ball. shouldnt we have had 1st and goal at the 4 and a half? ( HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL RULES)
[Edited by papa bear on Oct 26th, 2000 at 11:08 AM]
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Papa Bear,
I'm afraid the officials got this one right. If they ruled he was hit after the play was over, then it is a deadball foul. There is a rule that says in order to get a 1st down you get the yardage gained on the play plus any yards for a live ball foul plus any yards for a deadball foul only on 1st,2nd, or 3rd down. If it is 4th down, you must gain enough yards during the down plus the yards for any live ball fouls, but not including any deadball fouls. In effect, you can say that as soon as the runner is down after 4th down, with no liveball penalties, he must be past the line to gain or it is the other teams' ball as soon as the play is dead. Any penalties after the ball is dead will back the other team up but they will still have possession.