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Old Mon Jan 25, 2010, 01:35pm
Jurassic Referee Jurassic Referee is offline
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Originally Posted by Kelvin green View Post
I think he is referring to flops that cause contact.

That being said...MOst flops have some sort of contact, feet tangled, minor tripping, etc... since it was a flop and the person causes a saefty issue (OP) then the minor contact is more than incidental.
If it causes contact, then by definition it isn't a flop.

You're talking about fouls, not flops. By definition, "flops" have no contact or incidental contact and you do not have rules backing to call a personal foul when there is no contact or incidental contact.

If the minor contact is more than incidental, then it is a foul for illegal contact--exactly the same as we call any other contact that is more than incidental.

If the contact caused a safety issue and the contact is more than incidental, then it is NOT a flop and should be called accordingly.

This came from a FED POE in the 2004-05 rulebook-
'Flopping'- the defensive player or screener acting as though he or she has been charged by an opponent, when in fact he or she has not been, definitely has an impact on the game. It is detrimental to the best interests of basketball. The "actor" wants to create the false impression that he or she has been fouled in the charging/guarding situation, or while he or she is screening when in either case there is no contact or incidental contact. The 'actor' falls to the court as though he or she were knocked down by the force of the contact. Those actions are designed to have a foul charged to the opponent- a foul not deserved. The 'flop' also incites spectators. The rules are in place to deal with such activity and must be enforced. A technical foul is charged to the actor in ALL cases. Coaches can have a positive impact by appropriately dealing with players who fake being fouled. It is not part of the game. Officials must penalize the act.

I don't know if the FED could define 'flops' better than that for us.

Last edited by Jurassic Referee; Mon Jan 25, 2010 at 01:44pm.
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