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		| Philly I understand that Pete was just trying to start a thread. I answered that by giving almost a view 180* different than his feelings, I cannot think that there would be a BETTER answer to the original post than my answer. 
 It gives two divergent points that come to the exact same conclusion -- a perfect start to a thread that could last the winter.
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Hey, works for me.  And yes, the fresh crab is good.  In fact, Thanksgiving Dinner, besides the turkey, included fresh crab and oysters.  Too bad I don't golf much though- what little spare time I get is used up officiating- plus, they went and made me LL President this year, so no more trying out newfangled mechanics theory on the small diamond for me.