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Old Thu Nov 19, 2009, 12:37pm
Skahtboi Skahtboi is offline
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Originally Posted by steveshane67 View Post
why can a pdf that isnt found on the ASA website be the real rules????
I am sure you meant "why can't a PDF...."

Because, as I stated, and as many others have stated, there is no shortcut to understanding the rules of the game. Period. All of the rulebooks are as long as they are, because either players found a way to manipulate the rule as it was written, or else because the rule needed greater clarification. To take a part of a rule, out of context, will only lead to further misunderstanding. If, as you say, you really want the players to know the game, then hand them a rule book. Chances are just as many will read that as they would a "shortcut" PDF that you would give them if there was such a thing.

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Originally Posted by steveshane67 View Post
why can you believe the veracity if a book, that obviously cant be read online, but not a digital version of it????
Let me see if I can translate what it is you are trying to say here....

People who transpose these things are liable to make mistakes. I have found all kinds of errors in peoples' attempts to compare rule sets in an easy to read handout. It happens. If it isn't from the source, then you cannot trust the legitimacy of the article. I thought that was a pretty simple concept. Now, if you are asking "why can't someone trust the veracity of a digital version of a rule book," then you can, as long as it is from the organization whose rules you are desiring to use. In the case of ASA, there is no such thing. However, for USSSA, NCAA and others, you can access a digital version of the rulebook. However, this is not what you were talking about in your OP.

If you are asking "how can I trust the ASA rulebook," which I hope you aren't, well that is simple. I get my ASA Rules Book from the ASA every year. They print it, they dessimenate it.

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Originally Posted by steveshane67 View Post
... its when you use complete idiotic logic when trying to sound like you are omniscient that makes you sound like a jack*ss.

As stated previously, if you want respect, then give it, though apparently this is a very difficult concept for you to grasp.


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Originally Posted by steveshane67 View Post
...and if you werent trying to sound like a jack*ss, why even bother writing "quit trying to find one"????
It is sound advice that apparently you still don't wish to take. .

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Originally Posted by steveshane67 View Post
all i was looking for was an easier way for PLAYERS to understand MORE, NOT ALL, about the rules.
Have you ever heard the old saying, "You can lead a horse to water....?" Don't you really think that if the players wanted to know about the game, then they would take it upon themselves to learn about it? I have known some quite knowledgeable coaches and players. They are a rarity, but they are out there. They needed no short form PDF to learn the rules, and almost always had a book on hand.

Also, as has already been pointed out, "more" can sometimes be as dangerous as "none." A player, not armed with the complete knowledge of the rule, would attempt to interpret the knowledge they do have to fit a situation where it just doesn't fit. Then you would hear all of these players complaining to you, "but it was in that PDF that you gave me."

If a player comes to you wanting to know more about the game, then give them your rules book, or an old one, and tell them to read it cover to cover and to make notes on it, and then, if they have any questions, feel free to call or come up to you at the fields and ask these questions. You would much better serve them that way.
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