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Geesh...Irish...we all know what a hard arse you profess to be (not that that is bad in some arenas)...that doesn't always fly for others...as long as an umpire can fulfill their responsibilities to the game and their partners...

Actually, I'm not that tough on evaluations unless there is an issue that is completely out of line that could effect the game or safety of the participants (including the umpire). I prefer to address the small stuff on the side with the umpire and work with him/her to improve. An evaluator should be part of the training process, not intimidation process. Unfortunately, some people believe in fear and intimidation as a training method. I prefer pride and satisfaction with a job well done as a motivator.

why not let people percieve you in a positive manner or think well of you?

As an umpire, I'm on the field to do the job assigned and do it in the fashion expected by the sanctioning body under which those players chose to participate. If I do the job properly, odds are someone is still going to be upset with something that didn't go their way. The only people I care about when working the game are my partners.

(Rant on)We've all had to deal with umpires I refer to a GAGAs. Go along to get along. We all know a few. These are the umpires who try to socialize with the coaches and players during the game or maybe a parent or two at the fence. Some are so worried that they may not get a good rating from this coach or that team, they are willing to overlook what they may consider small infractions as to garner favor. Because of this, I've seen umpires that you would probably refuse to work with get HS tournament games while others who just do their job sit at home.
(Rant off)

The only person an umpire should worry about impressing are the partners.

And midway on the lines lets you hear things you might not want to hear!!

Don't understand this comment. Hell, half the stuff that comes out of a coach's or player's mouth is something I may not want to hear. Let them talk, really don't care. My mind will not permit FYCs, so that isn't going to happen. OTOH, there may be something going on that I am missing. No such thing as too much information.

An evaluator should be observing the entire umpire, not looking for CS issues to nitpick.

Kinda like what "type" of hammer mechanic is executed?

On an eval, yeah. However, that doesn't mean the umpire should not be reminded of the preferred mechanic for that association afterward.

Sometimes the CS things separate umpires...for instance let observers know who has read the manual and who hasn't bothered? Making the CS issues part of the entire umpire!!

Again, I agree (Man, this better not become a habit! ). That doesn't mean an evaluation should be peppered with a ****load of little issues that bury a relatively good performance. I just believe the CS can be handled with a little counseling. Now, if the umpire blows off the UIC/evaluator/whomever and continues in the same manner, yeah, that definitely needs to be noted before this umpire moves on.

I know ASA often takes a hit on "robotics" though I don't see it, but there is more to doing things in the prescribed manner, even the CS things, than enjoying and demonstrating individuality.

How can we take a promising young umpire who wants to be the best and train him/her in the prescribed mechanics (the associations, not mine) and tell him/her the manner in which s/he has to perform to advance then have that umpire stand and watch other accomplished umpires basically do their own thing and continue to get the best assignments?

Anyone who has kids knows the "do as I say, not as I do" philosophy wears thin real quick.

Hope I didn't cut out any questions you had.