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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
Just because the catcher doesn't throw does not automatically mean Defensive Indiference. If a runner takes a base because the defense allows him to, as in late in the game with the defensive team way ahead, then yes. But when a runner gets such a jump that making a throw would be too risky or useless, that counts as a stolen base.
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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty
Wrong both times. The pitcher on the play was Billingsley, and he took this deliberate windup, ufolded, turned, looked at the plate, and Cabrera was sliding in and he held up the pitch. Steal.
The steals without throws are key steals of second like Steve just described, in which the guy gets such a sick jump that there is no play. It's a steal, and not defensive indifference. I know the indifference.
I don't really need an introductory scoring lesson, I got that in 1967. But thanks anyway.
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I agree with these two. It's indifference when they're not even trying to hold the runner on or they don't care if he advances, like in a late inning when that runner is not the tying run. It's not the runner's fault he was skilled enough to get a good jump.
Just because some umpires haven't read Rule 10 and don't keep score doesn't mean others do know about scoring (and like doing it when they go to watch pro games).
