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Originally Posted by steveshane67
on a missed base, at what pt in time does it turn from a force out to an appeal play.
if R1 & R3, 2 outs, GB to RF, R1 goes 1st to 3rd but misses 2nd, after the play the defense appeals to 2nd, gets the out, but the run still scores is one end of the spectrum. the other end would be a routine grounder to SS who flips to 2B for the force out, run does not score.
now what happens on a play, R1 & R3 2 outs, GB to SS, R1 slides into 2nd but never touches 2nd when he slides, then the throw is caught by the 2B, from the SS, is that still a force out?
or R1 & R2, 2 outs, liner to RF, R1 only gets maybe 1 step past 2nd, but steps over the base, RF throws behind the runner, right to the SS, who is standing on the base, is this an appeal play, or a force out?
thanks
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In situation one, R1 attained 2B when he passed 2B. This would be an appeal and an advantagous fourth out. If properly appealed and R1 is called out on appeal, R3's run would not score as a forced runner failed to safely advance.
In situation two, your OP doesn't say if R1's slide stopped short of 2B or slid past 2B. If R1 slid past 2B, the runner would need to be tagged to be put out, simply tagging 2B would not retire the runner. If R1's slide was short of 2B, either tagging the runner or 2B would retire R1.
In situation three, did F9 catch the liner or was it a outfield hit? If it was an outfield hit and R1 went past 2B, it is the same as your situation one if R2 scored.