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Originally Posted by MajorDave
I have never seen or called a FPSR violation from the plate area. I have responsibilities at the plate area and at third. The only time I can see it or call it is with R1 when I am coming out far enough to see it and call it.
I had one this season in a FED game (How do you spell safety? Can you say NFHS? Sure, I knew you could.)where I called it immediately when I saw it. I got to about C position from the plate when the slide occured past the bag dumping the F6. I saw it and did not wait until the DP was over. IF both runners are out I don't have to make a big deal calling the automatic DP like I did. My call resulted in a big S**thouse which resulted in a longer than I liked discussion and explanation to the head coach for the offense then an argument and ultimately a dump of the assistant coach.
If I had waited, the DP happened anyway and I could have just spoken to the offensive head coach on the way back to the dugout and probably avoided dumping his assistant. They were getting killed and looking for a scapegoat. I personally think the ASSistant put on a show to try to get their players fired up but it still detracted from the game and wasted time and got the ignorant inbred fans fired up which resulted in some more warnings and restrictions.
I am not afraid to make a call, especially that call, but I think I learned a little bit about managment of situations in that instance. I should have waited then told the coach of the offending player that I saw it, pointed it and would have called it if I had to. They made a mountain out of a mole hill for a differing purpose and I fell into the trap. It was the first time that team had been run-ruled in about five years (A very good high school program that ultimately went to the regional semi-finals this year).
As to some amateur leagues that do not use FPSR I assume you mean that BS adult baseball crap where full grown men still try to be boys and jeopardize their personal health and family's financial well being trying to continue to live the dream. We don't have that around here and I would not work it under any circumstance. I am not that hard up for games or money. From the stories I hear those games often become a travesty and a testament to bad sportsmanship. If I worked them I would have to dump almost everyone and then I wouldn't get asked back anyway.
Sorry so long but you struck a nerve and I guess you might have meant to. If not I apologize and if so, good job. I'm sure you are proud and smug about it.
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I have seen and called FPSR from the plate, but only when there is an R2 or R3. With R1 only it is my responsibility to watch for this and be out from behind the plate to do it.
My point, which you missed, is that you call it when you see it, not wait to see what happens. If you allow a double play to happen a run could score while you wait to see something that is irrelevant.
You seem to prefer waiting to make the legitimate call, which is wrong, and my point, to having coaches come out and argue.
Adult baseball is not youth baseball. There are youth leagues that don't have FPSR.
My intent was not to strike a nerve, but to get you think about the consequences of not calling it when you see it (run scores because you allowed a DP to happen, sh*house happens because you didn't, etc).
Your game management skills are not complete until you call FPSR when you see it, and deal with the sh*thouse that might ensue. If you understand this after this discussion then I am proud, if not I don't really care.