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Old Tue May 12, 2009, 09:47pm
Nevadaref Nevadaref is offline
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Thanks for verifying that this review process is total BS.
The NBA philosophy of OVER-penalizing the defense is evident.

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Originally Posted by ronald View Post
For the disbeliever.

someone pointed out how it works. any play that the evaluator can not determine with certainty goes to the official. In other words, any call that is iffy, benefit of doubt to official.

The game is scored not an individual ref. I think you know that.

There is no flaw in the system. The evaluators review every second of a game. They see every call that was made and missed. They score it.

For you it might be flawed based on how they score it. For example, A1 goes for a shot is in the air, and B1 taps A1 on the hip or knee. If you called a foul, good job, correct call as this is not a basketball play and is an automatic call. If you passed on it, incorrect call.

A1 head fakes, B1 takes fake and goes up, A1 even initiates contact.

No call, incorrect.
Foul on defense, correct.
Foul on offense, incorrect.

Miss a travel, incorrect call
Call a travel that is not a travel, incorrect call.
Oh, that looked strange, must be a travel. Repaly shows that player stepped with non-pivot foot picked up his pivot foot and shoot. Looked ugly but legal. College ref called travel, incorrect call. Player did not travel. Don't guess a travel. Replay does not lie.

A1 goes up and islightly tapped on head by defender but plays through it and lays it in. Foul, Correct call. No harm no foul, incorrect call.

Hope that gives you an idea of how they are evaluating plays. Of course, you may argue they are wrong but I believe John Adams buys into it and PAC ten officials will as that is how they are going to be evaluated.
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Originally Posted by ronald View Post
Well,

From the final of the WCC championship, they missed 14 out of 41. They got 27 out of 41 correct. 65%.

Video breakdown

19:10 As the SMU offensive player takes the ball to the rim, the secondary defender #42 Gonzaga jumps into the offensive player and although the block is clean, this body contact is excessive, no call incorrect.

Video does not lie. It will make you a better referee.

14:19 Positive example of allowing the develop and finish on this play at the rim. Correct call.

10:30 Watch during this rebounding action as the SMU defender #50 and GU offensive player #42 go after a loose ball, the SMU defender #50 literally grabs with "2 hands" asn pulls #42 to the side in attempt to secure the ball, a loose ball rebounding foul is necessary, no call incorrect.

See how it works. Review your game, be honest and make progress.

NBA refs do this. They are not perfect but must get in the mid to high 90's or they do not stay around. 90% is not good enough for them
When A1 initiates contact, B1 shouldn't be penalized. That's just wrong.

Who decides if contact is incidental or excessive? That's in the eye of the beholder. Most people feel that some contact with the body is acceptable when the shot is blocked cleanly up top.

Is touching someone on the knee a foul?

It seems that the NBA wants a foul called even when the contact does NOT place the player at a disadvantage. How wonderful.
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