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Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve
If you are confused, then you just aren't reading what I am saying. I said
It is that simple. If a coach does his job, and umpire does his job, it shouldn't take more than the 1 minute between innings; or more than 20-30 seconds between batters. If the umpire is sloooooooooooooooow, and there is a delay because the umpire is slooooooooooooooow, then the pitcher can use that time to take an extra pitch, or two. If both coach and umpire do their job, but doing their job takes a bit too long, then, yes, the pitcher can take another warmup pitch or two.
BUT, if the coach delays until the one minute is up, then wants to give the umpire his subs, that isn't the umpire delaying the game, so that clause does not have to apply. It isn't stated that anytime an umpire takes substitutions that the pitcher can take excess warmup pitches without penalty, nor does it say we should allow them. The rule uses that (handling substitutions) as one of several examples when we may allow them, and not penalize them.
And that's the difference; you are saying the black and white is that we have to allow it. The rule says we do not have to allow it, but we may, and gives some examples of when you might.
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I think that in practice, what you and I are saying are basically the same thing. If we're moving along at a decent pace, the coach isn't dawdling and neither is the PU, then extra pitches are acceptable. If I see the coach dawdling or appear to be employing some tactic to sneak a few extra warm-up pitches in there, then no, we're not allowing it.
I think we're both looking for something in each other's posts that just isn't there.
You know, that seems to happen a lot on this forum. Why is that? I'll admit that I'm not immune to it. Maybe it's just CYA...
