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				In the OP the poster initiated the consultation on his own. 
			
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 Which was absolutely wrong.
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				Do you really think the offended manager, knowing the rule, wouldn't have initiated an "ask for help" request? 
			
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 The OP makes no mention of whether that manager knew the rule or not. I've seen plenty of times where knowledgeable managers have chosen not to pursue a legitimate issue after perfunctory argument. 
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				In the OP it got fixed before it got to the protest point. A protest wasn't necessary. 
			
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 Oh, yes, it was.
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				Would you let a partner get away with a "strike two- - you're out" call? 
			
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 I wouldn't have to. If it was a case of a missed count, then he can rectify it--it's his count, and if he wants my input, he can ask for it. If it was a case of knowingly calling an out with two strikes, it's going to get to the stage where I am required by rule to provide input. If, by some happenstance, the offense doesn't protest, I'm not saying jack.