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Originally Posted by TwoBits
Fully aware of both rules. That is not the argument here.
Refer to the original post: Manager makes pitching change, walks back to the dugout, then walks back onto the field to second baseman. Umpire informs manager that he was charged a conference as he is walking back to the dugout.
You can't charge a conference because the umpire should have disallowed the meeting between the manager and second baseman to happen.
I really want to see the rule you are trying to apply that allows an umpire to charge a conference after a pitching change but before the pitcher has faced a batter or a third out is made.
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The pitching change was not a conference. The return to talk to F4 after crossing the foul line was. He is not disallowed this meeting, unless it would have been the one that caused a pitching change requirement (ie the 4th one in the game). If it were the 4th then it is not allowed to happen.