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Originally Posted by asdf
How about this scenario.... (my apologies if already discussed)
A1 dribbling outside the 3-point line sees A2 wide open under the basket.
A1 tries to pass the ball to A2 directly off the dribble (we've all seen this type of pass) and is fouled by B1. B1's contact with A1 causes the ball to strike B3 who is standing outside the lane, but inside the three point line. the ball, after striking B3 enters the basket.
You are telling me you are going to award 3 points and a foul shot for a good bucket?
or....
A1 driving to the basket and elevates as if he is going to shoot, however he passes towards A2 who is left alone because B2 comes over to help on A1. B2 fouls A1 as he passes to A2.
Are you going to wait to declare "no shot" or "on the pass" until you see if the ball is deflected into or towards the basket?
If it is deflected towards but not into the basket are you awarding two shots?
The wording may be cloudy, but the call is crystal clear.
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In both of your plays, as mbyron already mentioned, we still have to judge whether it's a try or pass/throw. So, in both instances, because it was a pass and not a try, the ball becomes dead on the foul, and no points are scored when the ball goes through the basket after the foul.
The rule and case play are only taking away our judgement as to whether it's a pass or try when a thrown ball originating outside the arc goes through the basket - it will still count 3 points. We still need to make that judgement, however, in the event of a foul, or if time expires before the ball goes through the basket.