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It's difficult to answer such questions based upon description. In the first example, I would say no, it's not a shooting foul. You stated, "...before he can bring the ball up to attempt to shoot.." The second example is less clear. I judge foot movements to mean that the player has become an airborne shooter, if he has not started the arm movement. Read 4-11-2 and you'll find that the player may continue to pivot or step and complete the usual movement, if the throwing motion has started.
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