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Originally posted by JRutledge
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Originally posted by rainmaker
Maybe in Chicag-land, this is no big deal, but around here, it's still a fightin' word, so to speak, and thus requires an E.
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Juulie if you have ever read anything I have said, I do not officiate only in the Chicago area. This would not be acceptable in Peoria, Springfield or even in Laharpe and all the farm towns in between. If you are just ejecting kids over the F-word without warning or talking to, then as I stated before, you might be watching more than officiating. Ever seen a kid dislocate his ankle on a layup? I was not going to step in a T the kid because of the language that came out of his mouth while he is rolling around in play.
I did a football game about a month ago and had one Black player say to another Black player, "good play n***a." Now under NF Football Rules, the same words apply almost identically. Being an African-American myself I promply went to the kid that said those words and told him, "That is not acceptable, you are not at home with your friends, and you are in a professional arena. If I hear you say that again, you will not play any longer." Guess what happen? I did not have this problem again and the kid apologized to me and did not do it again. Now this is in a football game where it is a lot harder to hear things on the sidelines. No one knew I even took care of this problem. And it could not be used as an issue and I would not be precieved as being "over officious."
Just my opinion.
Peace
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Jeff-- Where DO you ref, then? I guess I'm confused.
If you had read what I just wrote, you will see that I said I specifically will not T for the quiet under the breath kind of stuff. And only T if it's "loud enough to hear in the second row." I can't believe it would play in Peoria, frankly. I know people who live in rural Indiana and Illinois--lots of them. They would not find this acceptable. Even many inner-city folk here in Portland would be horrified if I let it go, when it's loud enough to hear in the second row. In your area, apparently, this is not the case. Great. I would expect that most of the rest of the country is more like Portland.
In your other situation, I think that you handled it well. Even white housewife me knows that that particular word is often acceptable between African-Americans when it has an entirely different meaning if spoken by a non-black. I
I never said my "list" was a list of 100% responses. There are about 5 things on my list where I will "automatically give a T if..." Other items on the list have the word "if" in them. One item is not so much a word or collection of words as a concept, "taunting". You weren't overly officious to talk to some guys about some questionable language, and I'm not overly officious to decide ahead of time about certain responses to certain situations.