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Lets look at this obstruction thing posted by SamC.

QUOTE SamC

"Now here's a philosophical question, on a pickoff attempt at 1st by F2, F3 obstructs the runner, by dropping to her knee in front of the bag well before the ball arrives, but in doing so, she is unable to catch the ball which ends up rolling down the 1st base line. R1 hops up and heads for 2nd, but an alert F9 chases down the ball and throws to F6 who tags R1 out on a VERY close play. So what do you do with R1?" I am saying this is strictly a pickoff attempt, R1 not thinking of stealing.

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As BU we see the OBS, we signal DDB, runner back, ball gets past F3. R1 races for 2B and as
stated on a VERY close play is thrown out. Under ASA Rule 8 Sec. 6.B. 1. They tell us
a runner cannot be put out between the two bases where obstructed.

--OTOH--

Rule 8 Sec. 6.B. 2. Tells us if the obstructed runner is put out passing the base
which would have been reached, in our case FIRST, had there not been obstruction,
the obstructed runner will be called out. Ball remains live.

Could not we, in this scenario, by rule call R1 out? Without a doubt by advancing
towards 2nd she went beyond the base she would have reached had there been no OBS.
OBS occurred with R1 going back into 1B, no attempted to this point on
achieving 2B. Why give her back a base she already had and decided to giveup.

Thoughts.

glen