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Old Sat Jan 03, 2009, 04:03pm
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Originally Posted by SAump View Post
My apologies. It is hard for me to communicate.


Rule is vague as to when "initiates a play" applies during unrelaxed conditions.
There is no Pro equivalent {crossing my fingers that I did not exagerate here, help?}.
In ASA softball (greymule provides ruling in older thread), there is no "tag-only" appeal requirement.
I think it correctly interprets the "speed or action" taking place on a 60 foot diamond.
My presumption is that whatever took place in softball, carries back over to baseball.

As Mr Childress would possibly say it, "All rule codes now agree."
First, I don't work softball, don't know softball, really don't care about softball in these situations.

That being said, you are correct when you say that under NCAA, when the offense initiates a play prior to an appeal being made, the defense does not loss it's right to appeal. This is not true under OBR.

Sitch: R1, hit and run. grounder to F6 who tries to retire BR. BR safe. R1 at third but missed second. Continous actions stops. F1 gets the ball and the defense is screaming "appeal second." As F1 turns to throw to second, R1, on third, breaks for home. F1 throws to F2 but R1 safe at home. F1 now appeals miss of second by R1.
Ruling: NCAA - Appeal upheld. 8-6-b-4 Run does not score. OBR - Appeal denied. Run scores.
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