[PeteBooth]

I'm surprised the following play has not made it to this Forum The play has been discussed at eTeamz and the URC.

R1/R3 - 2 outs. B1 hits ground ball in the hole between third and short, F6 fields the ball and trys to get R1 for the Force at second. R1 CLEARLY beats the throw but does not touch second. R3 scores and R1 scrambles back to second immediately and is tagged out. Does R3 run counts?

The answer in OBR anyway is it depends upon what interpretation you go by.

PBUC - says score the run, however, the defense can subsequently appeal (the advantageous 4th out) that R1 MISSED a Force to base and thus cancel the Run.

PRO Interpretation stems from the Nick Bremigan Ruling which says Count the run.

Side Note: Warren Wilson is presently writing an article at officiating.com on this subject.

I did not post this play to discuss the OBR interp but the FED interp.

In FED, no appeal needed on a Forced to base, meaning if F4 tagged the base, the umpire would register the out. Similar to a play at first where B1 clearly beats the throw but does not touch the bag.

Now some say, this is a rediculous ruling in FED, however, the OBR interp of this play isn't so easy either, just check out the discussions at the other Forums.

Does anybody know of the FED history behind their appeal ruling process? I know in the past the Umpire had authority to rule on missed bases without an official appeal and that was recently changed.

Did someone in FED, read the 1978 referee article concerning the Bremigan Ruling and decided that it wasn't clear and something needed to be done?

Based on all the discussions concerning this play, I would say that the FED way at least until OBR clears it up is as good as any.

Your thoughts? Thanks

Pete Booth