Quote:
Originally posted by mikesears
Quote:
Originally posted by pheinen
In YOUR scenario, A87 blocks below waist away from ball on a play that EVENTUALLY scores. At the time it is not known by covering official or players that a score is imminent. Therefore it is a live ball foul.
However, in the original scenario, a score is assured and obvious to all officials and players (where the ball carrier is going uncontested into the end zone), all defensive and offensive players are no longer actively participating in the play, and the foul occurs well behind the play.
If the foul is also flagrant enough, it can also warrant an ejection. However, wiping out a score in this scenario is unnecessary.
|
Someone once pointed out that officials don't wipe out scores. Players actions do. 
A knowledgable coach on the short end of this stick would be all over us if we misinterpretted a rule like this. As a matter of fact, I would expect a coach to call a coach/referee conference to address the call, especially if the runner wasn't even close to the goal line when the LIVE-BALL foul occured.
Can I ask a sincere question? Would you (or your white hat) alter you ruling if confronted during a coach/referee conference?
|
As a white hat I can say that absolutely no coach would ever have to call a conference to discuss my misapplication of this rule. It is a personal foul and your player just cost you a score.
However, this was discussed at our association meeting last night and most referees would call it a USC. A few would say the player had scored and make it a dead ball - personal foul. The objective is to make the coach happy that he got the score while not leaving the foul unpunished.
No guts, plenty of glory!
I expect this season not to see one of these because my umpire and I will clean up by each taking a hash mark and yelling "Play is gone, no cheat shots" as we follow the play.
Will it work? Ask me in November.