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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle
It seems from your posts that you are steadfastly missing the big picture. LGP is all well and good, and this case is all about LGP and losing LGP because the guy has a foot on the line. But there is a lot more to calling fouls than LGP.
- A1 goes over B1's back on a rebound. Foul. LGP is not relevant.
- A1 sets a blind screen on B1, and there is contact. Foul. LGP is not relevant.
- A1, who has the ball in the post, hooks B1 as he goes around him. Foul. LGP is not relevant.
- B1 takes a certain spot on the court before A1 jumps in the air to catch a pass. A1 lands on B1. Foul. LGP is not relevant.
- B1 tries to block A1's shot, but whacks him on the arm instead. Foul. LGP is not relevant.
- Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
And finally, B1 is standing with a toe on the sideline, stationary, when A1 runs him over. Foul. On A1. LGP is not relevant. Therefore neither is the now infamous case play that only talks about LGP. Which is not relevant. But it is still a foul. And it's still on A1. And LGP still is not relevant.  |
I'll agree with BITS here, in that it seems the disagreement is not about the case play or any situation we've come up with, but rather a fundamental understanding of
when and why LGP is required, and why it exists.
Having LGP is not exclusive of all the other rules regarding entitlement to a spot and all other types of fouls.
Add this one to the last example above - B1, instead of standing with a toe on the sideline, is standing with one leg in the air in the middle of the court. He has never established LGP. Now, A1 runs him over. What have you got? He doesn't have LGP, so...
Obviously still a PC foul, because B1 is entitled to his spot regardless of his status in relation to LGP.
I said it earlier in this long, long thread somewhere, but LGP is important because it grants
additional rights to a player. However, that player does not lose all his other rights when he loses LGP. He simply loses the additional rights of LGP that allow him to move when guarding.
LGP does not - in any way shape or form - apply to a stationary player. A stationary player can have LGP, but it just doesn't matter.